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This is my attempt to gather all the Mobile IRC Addicts together, and make sure more people know about the wonders of Mobile IRC'ing!
Furthermore I would like this topic to be some kind of information point about the developments in the mobile IRC world
And most of all: to have fun!
So, first thing I did, was make an icon to show you are a Proud Mobile IRC'ing Addict!
Code:
[url=http://forum.chat4all.net/index.php/topic,448.0.html][img]http://fixato.co.uk/images/icons/mobileIRC2.gif[/img][b]I am a [i]Proud Mobile IRC Addict![/i][/b][/url]
could be added to your sig to show:
I am a
Proud Mobile IRC Addict!
or if you have space for a bigger one somewhere:
Code:
[url=http://forum.chat4all.net/index.php/topic,448.0.html][img]http://fixato.co.uk/images/icons/mobileIRC.gif[/img][b]I am a [i]Proud Mobile IRC Addict![/i][/b][/url]
would show:
I am a
Proud Mobile IRC Addict!
So... let's get started!
What is Mobile IRC'ing?
Mobile IRC'ing is connecting to an IRC (Internet Relay Chat) server through a mobile device such as a PocketPC or Mobile Phone.
With the increase of possibilities to get online from these mobile devices (WAP, GPRS, UMTS, Wi-Fi), the ways to get on an IRC-server with them increases as well!
How can I get on IRC from my phone?
Well, let's divide this up a bit
Getting on IRC through WAP
WAP, the Wireless Access Protocol, was one of the first protocols used to get online from mobile devices. It is slow and should only be used for small websites
However, gateway software has been written for it
If you have a FreeBSD or Linux machine/server with internet access you can install programs on, then you can try out
WapIRC
With this piece of software, you can setup and run your own gateway, to which you can connect with your WAP-capable mobile device.
This software usually is rather limited, mostly because of the limitations of WAP.
Steike.com (now moved to
Tykje.com
used to host a wapIRC gateway as well. Due to hosting issues it is no longer continued though. The page can still be found
here
though..
Getting on IRC through GPRS/UTMS/WiFi via JAVA
This way of connecting has much more, and much nicer solutions
!
One of the first Java solutions out there for your Mobile Device was
WLIrc
.
WLIrc 1.0
is written for the Java MIDP 1.0 framework and should work on most mobile devices that support Java applications.
The program itself has some limitations though..
For instance, you don't see nickchanges, nor does it show hostaddresses. Also, it can't send any raw command you would want it to send.
And if you are writing a message, you can't see what is being said in the channel.
Also, if someone opens a private window with you while you are writing a message, the message you were writing will be lost.
A lot of these bugs/limitations have been solved in
WLIrc 2.x
.
However, since it uses midp 2.0, it doesn't support a lot of mobile devices.. Especially not the older ones..
But enough about WLIrc, there are more Java clients out there for your
MD
(Mobile Device
)!
For instance,
jmIRC
I find that jmIRC is more userfriendly than WLIrc 1.0; can't judge about comparison with WLIrc 2.0 though, since I never gotten that properly to work on my Smartphone Orange SPV C550.
It seems to be more stable than WLIrc, and I believe it also handles the receiving while typing a message better
Another one that is based on WLIrc is
virca
, a client that I haven't tested yet myself.
The development for this client is also very slow though..
Getting on IRC through GPRS/UTMS/WiFi via Native Windows Mobile Software
PocketPC
s running Windows Mobile Operating System, and new mobile phone/pocketpc hybrids such as the
SmartPhones
have access to clients that more and more come close to the clients you run on your regular pc.
Since it runs natively on your MD, and doesn't need to run through a java virtual machine, they tend to be
more stable
and run
faster
!
[updated]
The first client I prefered:
SmartIRC.net
.
Although it is just a single-window client, it works pretty nicely for me
And it is
free
!
Sending private messages
can be kinda
tedious
if you are chatting to more persons in private at once, since you have to prefix your message with a dot followed by the nickname of the user the message is meant for.
For instance:
.moogle hi there moogs!
would send
"hi there moogs!"
to one of everyone's favourite chatsters, moogle ;p
You can
switch between channels
via a menu.
Raw servercommands
can be send by prefixing them with a comma
,
[updated]
One that looked very promising was
wmIRC
, a client that says to
support
both
PocketPC
as
SmartPhone
. It had been my favourite for a long time. I even dropped SmartIRC in favour of wmIRC. But the lack of development, list of out-standing bugs and the promising future of zsIRC didn't make it worthwhile anymore to pay for it.
The main downsides are that it is a paid client and that
development
on it seems to
has been halted
.
19.95 USD is still quite steep.. especially since I couldn't get it properly to work on my C550.. I could physically enter rooms, and the built-in log function did log the chats.. but no window was opened for that room..
Private chats worked fine though...
On my HTC TyTN II (Also known as HTC Kaiser) it all did seem to work okay most of the times, although on rare occasions it would still occur for 1 or 2 windows.
It has
full colour
and
control code
support, and -as mentioned before- supports
logging
to a txt file on your phone.
It also has a
built-in identd
-server (although I would not work on mine as I was still detected as identd-less by the server) and supports
connecting to SSL
IRC-servers.
If you have a
touch-screen
supporting phone, you can
copy single words
from the conversation window by
tapping
on them; they will appear in your input entry box then.
NEW!
The client I prefer to use nowadays, is
zsIRC
.
It is
free
, has
multiple-window
-support, has
on-screen typing
so you don't have to switch back and forth between a typing window and the conversation window.
It has a
shared input bar
, so you can type something and if another window opens, you can get back to the other window again and enter the text there
It is
stable
; it doesn't display strange glitches and doesn't crash (not yet so far anyway).
It is
actively developed
! This is something that always bothered me about the previous favourites of mine... updates were scarce (even though there were still bugs), or development on them was even halted..
Unsupported commands are sent directly to the server, so
raw commands
should be
supported
.
One of the main reasons that I also like this client, is that it supports
logging
! Logs are stored in one big .log-text file per window and the
timestamps are limited
to hours:minutes:seconds, so it
lacks dates
..
Another nice feature of this client is that it displays an
on-screen NickList
on the side of the screen! It
displays
the
Prefix
-symbols
(~,&,@, % and +)
as well infront of the nicks. One bug with this though is that it
doesn't recognise
the new prefixes
& and ~ properly
; it does display them, but if you try to open a conversation through its
context-menu
, it will open a conversation with the prefix added to the nickname. So for instance trying to open a private conversation with me when I am founder of a room (and thus have the ~ prefix, it will try to open a conversation window with ~FiXaphone instead of just FiXaphone; thus messages typed in there will not be delivered. This is a bug though that occurs in many IRC clients...
The nicklist is properly automatically updated with parts and joins, which is a bug that occurs often on wmIRC and WLirc.
/Join
s,
/Part
s and
/Quit
s are displayed as well with
hostnames
and
messages
!
You can copy single lines of a conversation if you have a touch-screen supported phone by tapping on the line. The developer writes though that he is working on buffer-copying too.
So go ahead;
download
it and try it out.
Last but not least, is
PocketIRC
. But as the name says, it is only for the PocketPC, thus I haven't been able to test it
(
Update:
as I now have a TyTN II which is classified as a PocketPC, I could check this client out now; expect an updated article in a while!)
Also, it isn't free either. It is 5 USD cheaper than wmIRC though
A free alternative would be
PocketChat
Something extra for MIDP2.0 support on (older) Windows Mobile devices:
If you have a windows mobile environment (or something else on your phone that can run *.exe's), then you can grab yourself
IBM's MIDP2.0
which will allow you to run MIDP 2.0 java applications.
Extract the IVE folder into your
\Storage Card\Program Files\
folder and place the
MIDP-ANS.lnk
link in your
(Storage)
\Windows\Start Menu
folder.
Note: you can use
File:///
to load local .jad / .jar files. It is preferred to also have a .jad file (creatable with
jadgen
or
jbench
, or by renaming the Manifest file inside the .jar)
You can also get the latest version of the IBM MIDP2.0 from the
IBM website
Install it on your pc and copy the contents of
.\IBM\WEME\runtimes\61\wm50-sp-arm-midp20\weme-wm50-sp-arm-midp20_6.1.0.20060317-111429.zip
to your smartphone's storage card and create a shortcut to the Emulator.exe
Join Us!
Do you know or use an IRC client for a mobile device that I haven't listed? Or just want to show your support to the Mobile IRC Addicts community? Or want to show you are a proud Mobile IRC Addict as well?
GO ON! Post in here
We mobile IRC geeks don't bite ;p
This is my attempt to gather all the Mobile IRC Addicts together, and make sure more people know about the wonders of Mobile IRC'ing!
Furthermore I would like this topic to be some kind of information point about the developments in the mobile IRC world
Changelog:
Friday the 31st of March, 2006:
Initial start of article.
Thursday the 18th of May, 2006:
Wrote information about getting MIDP 2.0 support on Windows Mobile devices.
Saturday the 29th of December, 2007:
Updated the article with some more current developments and experiences and
added zsIRC
.
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* Siiw is a phone IRC addict, too *hides*
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Have you tried other clients beside wlIRC that you use?
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April 04, 2006, 04:38:43 PM »
In belgium it's too expensive to be hoocked up to IRC, unless you are going trough wifi ... but for the rest no thank you ... and IRC is fun when you want to have chill, but to be online all the time ... no thanks and besides IRC'ng while driving a car .... don't see the combination
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Only wlIrc 2 beta, but that wasn't working. I could type, but not see what other people were typing!
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April 10, 2006, 04:31:28 AM »
Eyyy Siiw, where's your "I am a Proud Mobile IRC Addict!" signature?
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April 19, 2006, 06:00:21 PM »
Great Information!
I tryed WLIrc2 Beta 4, but i couldn't see anything in the channel, or less.
I also Tryed jmIRC, and that one Works fine for me
So now i can work on my mobile IRC Addiction
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WLirc2.* has that problem with a lot of phones. It is probably related to the use of java midlet2 instead of midlet1.
I should see if I can find a way to update the java bytecode engine for my mobile phone. maybe that works.
I have a similar problem with wmIRC
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May 18, 2006, 02:05:23 PM »
Java MIDP 2.0 on your SmartPhone
If you have a windows mobile environment (or something else on your phone that can run *.exe's), then you can grab yourself
IBM's MIDP2.0
which will allow you to run MIDP 2.0 java applications.
Extract the IVE folder into your
\Storage Card\Program Files\
folder and place the
MIDP-ANS.lnk
link in your
(Storage)
\Windows\Start Menu
folder.
Note: you can use
File:///
to load local .jad / .jar files. It is preferred to also have a .jad file (creatable with
jadgen
or
jbench
, or by renaming the Manifest file inside the .jar)
You can also get the latest version of the IBM MIDP2.0 from the
IBM website
Install it on your pc and copy the contents of
.\IBM\WEME\runtimes\61\wm50-sp-arm-midp20\weme-wm50-sp-arm-midp20_6.1.0.20060317-111429.zip
to your smartphone's storage card and create a shortcut to the Emulator.exe
I also managed to get wmIRC 2.0 running btw, but that involved getting an earlier (unofficial) release...
Opera Update!
Btw, Opera has release version 2.0 of their
Opera Mini software
. (And 8.5 of the Opera Mobile)
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The first post has been updated with new information, a new client (zsIRC) and formatting.
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February 07, 2008, 11:16:33 PM »
As of today, I registered the domain
zsIRC.com
for the zsIRC project. Currently it is redirecting to the original website, but soon it will function as a normal alternative url for this very nice mobile IRC client!
Original post updated with the new url.
(Please note that I am *not* a zsIRC developer
that is only gargaj
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February 08, 2008, 02:10:19 PM »
Yeah, zsIRC...please consider that smartphones are getting more and more popular. Dont
and help us SPH-users stop feeling
and
and
and port the WM Professional version to WM Standard! Pleeeeeeaaaaassseeee
Until then: for Smartphone users of
wmIRC
: if you have problems using the smartphone version (for what reason whatsoever) try installing the smartphone version, rename the exe and the copy the PPC-version EXE over to your smartphone. Works fine, except for the settings, which you still have to set in the smartphone version.
Maybe someone who has wmIRC (PPC) running can tell me in what registry key the setting for the "Execute after connect" setting is stored? Thanks a lot!
(The settings are stored under HKCU/Software/wmIRC)
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March 08, 2008, 03:52:09 PM »
zsIRC now also runs on Smartphones without touchscreen! See zsIRC.com for the latest version.
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Siiw, could you post your experiences with the client you use now?
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The one i use now is called
UtaIRC.
It is a (modified) version of jmIRC, made by a russian and partly translated into english.
It is in many ways more advanced than wlirc. It displays text and info in a much more correct way, whoises and topics show fully. It shows the host when people join and part a channel, and it shows nick changes correctly. The nick list is updated automatically, something wlirc couldn't do. It can be set to notify nicks and highlight your own nick. The Favourites system saves lines, for example commands, that can be entered with 2-3 clicks later. I have found that very useful for identifying. It also supports a perform script, and different profiles.
Some parts of the program is still in Russian, i have found russian text in input windows in certain situation, and there is a "language not found" error in the op/deop menu. The menus are slower to navigate through than wlirc's, since they have several sublevels of menus. For example, to open a private window with somebody, you have to choose "menu-nick list-commands-open query". The menus contain more commands than wlirc, but it can be harder to find the desired function. There is no action shortcut from the channel, i solved this by adding /me to my t9 list. As in other phone clients, it is also a good idea to add oftenly used nicks to the t9 list.
UtaIRC can't connect to multiple servers, or log text. It can't DCC. When entering text, the input box takes up the entire screen.
It was a great relief to find that it doesn't have the notify/PM bug in wlirc, i can continue typing even if a PM or notify window opens in the background.
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